The World Will End on December 28, 2011: The Proofs

Posted on 14 November 2011


 

But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.” (Matthew 24:37).  Little did we realize how important these words in scripture would be, in comparing Noah’s adventure with his ark 7000 years ago to our situation today.  In carefully piecing together this chronology in Genesis Chapters 7 and 8, every verse offers at least one tidbit of spiritual meaning or physical evidence to help put together our puzzle.  Finally, all the pieces appear to be in place. 

  

In Genesis Chapter 8: Could December 28, 2011 Be the End?, we started to look at May 21 and October 21, 2011 in relation to Noah’s calendar in his day.  The idea was to align the two calendars precisely, so that we could use his calendar to forecast the events and dates into our future.  The Flood in his day began on the 17th day of the 2nd month, the Bible says.  Our Day of Judgment, after working through the timeline of history, also began on the 17th day of the 2nd month in the Hebrew calendar of our day, which translates to May 21, 2011.  The Flood began in 4990 BC, and 7000 years later (subtract one year, as there is no year zero), we reach 2011.  God warned Noah that the water was coming within 7 days, and II Peter 3:8 sternly warns us that one day is as a thousand years.  We have interpreted this to mean that Noah’s 7-day warning is a 7000 year warning for us as well.  In trying to align the two calendars, the start of both judgment periods is the same day, exactly what we need.  The problem is that the next significant day in each calendar does not appear to correspond with the other.  The ark rested on a mountain top on the 17th day of the 7th month.  In our Hebrew calendar, that is October 15, 2011.  However, our 5 month day of judgment ends on the 23rd day of the 7th month, or October 21, 6 days later.  Without resolving or explaining this discrepancy, our progress is at a standstill.


To find the solution, we have to look at the warning itself:  “For yet 7 days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights;…” (Genesis 7:4).  In checking the original definitions of the Hebrew word for “yet,” it would have been better translated “within”.  That would mean that the day of the warning was day 1, and Noah had 6 more days before the raining began.  This is called inclusive counting, meaning you are counting off 6 days, but adding one more, the first day, to the count total.  There are many other examples of this given by God in the Bible, and it gives Him more flexibility.  If the Flood began on the 17th day, the warning would have been given on the 11th day of the 2nd month.  The “one day is as a thousand years” applies to the warning, and begins on the warning day, not the day the Flood began 7 (inclusive) days later.  The 11th day of the 2nd month in our day is May 15, and 5 months later lands perfectly on October 15, the day the ark rested in Noah’s day.  Thus, we have a path of 7000 years + 5 months to October 15.  When God repeats the warning to us again on May 15, we also have 7 inclusive days before judgment day begins on May 21, and that second trail ends on October 21.  If you are counting it by each day, you must remember that one path uses Noah’s 5 months as 150 days, and the other path uses our 5 months as 153 days.  To summarize, our mistake had been to apply the beginning of the 7000 years to May 21, not May 15.


Since October 15 is the 17th day of the 7th month in both calendars, we can continue with our exploration for Truth.  Noah’s calendar proceeds from that day, not the end of the Day of Judgment on October 21, which we would normally assume to be the stepping off point.  God has inserted just enough little pieces of confusion here and there to have made it historically impossible to figure out.


And it came to pass at the end of forty days, that Noah opened the window of the ark which he had made:…” (Genesis 8:6).  We have already established that this was 40 days after the ark rested, on October 15 (in our day).  Counting 40 days, we come to November 24, which is the 27th day of the 8th month in our Hebrew calendar.  Using 30 days per month for Noah, going from the 17th day of the 7th month to the 27th day of the 8th month also is exactly 40 days.  The perfect alignment of the calendars is now extended to November 24.  For us, the window will open as well, even if it is only spiritual in nature.


The section in Genesis Chapter 8: Could December 28, 2011 Be the End? concerning Noah releasing the birds after the window was opened needs to have the timing corrected.  When Noah opened the window on November 24, he would have released the raven to check for land.  Genesis Chapter 8: Could December 28, 2011 Be the End? incorrectly states that the date was November 23, and that Noah waited 7 days before releasing the raven.  A week later, on December 1, he released the dove because the raven did not return.  The dove would return December 8 with nothing.  Would Noah release the dove again on December 8, or was it even the same dove?  In Verse 8, explaining the first release of the dove, it says “a dove.”  But in Verse 10, describing the second release, the Bible says “the dove,” telling us that it was the very same bird.  Noah would obviously not have sent it back out immediately after being in flight for the better part of a week.  (There must have been lots of floating material on the water for the bird to rest on from time to time.)  Recall that in Genesis Chapter 8: Could December 28, 2011 Be the End?, we found out how we know that the time period between events was 7 days.  So Noah sent out the dove for the second time on December 15, a week or more after it returned.  This time it came back that evening, with the olive leaf in its beak, telling Noah that tree tops were now visible.  He would send forth the dove the third time on December 22 in our day, and it would not return.  The Bible does not give day and month numbers for all of this bird activity, so we can only count the spacing between events to move forward in the calendar.


As we spoke about in Genesis Chapter 8: Could December 28, 2011 Be the End?, back in Verse 5 the Bible informs us that on the first day of the 10th month, the tops of the mountains were visible above the water line, giving the birds a place to land.  Counting days using 30-day months from the 17th day of the 7th month when the ark rested, we get a total of 74 days.  Counting out the days on our calendar from October 15, the mountains were visible on December 28, 2011.  The dove was released the third time on December 22, and would have come back on Dec 29 for this 7-day pattern to perpetuate.  It fits within reason that after 6 days, on December 28, the dove was able to land on a mountain top and not have to return to the ark.


The raven is an unclean animal in the Bible, meaning it could not be used for food or religious ceremonies.  Unclean animals are a picture of the unsaved people of the world.  When Noah released the raven, it tells us that once the flood was over, sin would again proliferate on the earth.  The dove is a clean animal, and it represents all of God’s children safe and secure with Jesus Christ in the ark. The mountains can be a metaphor in the Bible of the Kingdom of God, and on December 28 the dove does reach the mountain tops.


As the Bible teaches us to break down verses and sentences to discover Truth, we have found all through the Bible that some numbers and their factors regularly point to truth as well.  The number 2 can represent those bringing the Gospel, 3 can mean God’s purpose, 4 points to the farthest extent of whatever is in view, and 7 can show perfect fulfillment.  Also, 13 leads us to the end of the world, and 17 is a number signifying Heaven.  Finally, for this discussion, 37 and 43 often refer to God’s wrath or judgment.


As with the precise year intervals between events as posted in the Bible throughout history, the day intervals between events during these last days are also remarkable.  From between both May 15 to October 15, and May 21 to October 21, the duration is 153 days, or (3x3x17), signifying God’s purpose (3) is a promise of Heaven (17) for His people during the 5 months.  October 21 to December 28 is 68 days long, or (4×17), meaning the farthest extent of this time (4) ends in Heaven (17).  How fitting that these are the final 68 days that God has added onto the 5 month Day of Judgment!  October 21 to November 24 is 34 days, as is November 24 to December 28, each breaking down into (2×17), or those bringing the Gospel attaining Heaven.  October 15 to December 28 is 74 days (2×37), from when the ark landed until the very end.  Another very good piece of evidence is the time of May 21, 2011 to December 28, 2011, 221 days, or (17×13), Heaven at the end of the world.  There are even a few more, which are worth discussing.  There are 6,321 days from the start of the latter rain on September 7, 1994 to December 28, 2011.  This breaks down into (3x7x7x43), or God’s purpose is the perfect fulfillment of his Judgment.  December 15 to December 28 is 13 days, and it indeed leads to the end.  December 1 to December 22 and November 24 to December 15 both each total 21 days (3×7).  November 24 to December 22, when the dove would leave the ark for the last time, is 28 days, or (4×7), a metaphor for perfect fulfillment at the farthest extent of time.  The incredible number of 7’s, 13’s and 17’s must speak for themselves, as that could never all happen by chance.


As has been shown already, all of the numerical proofs, as well as Noah’s day count of 74 days, point to December 28 as the end of it all.  However, there is one piece that does not corroborate.  When you look up the 1st day of the 10th month in a Hebrew calendar, the corresponding Gregorian day is December 27, not December 28.  We must remember, however, that Noah’s calendar with 30-day months had only 360 days, so the two calendars cannot remain parallel indefinitely.  From May 15 to November 24, God has positioned all of the important days to line up precisely, which is quite remarkable.  Whether the mountains were visible on the 27th or the 28th of December, the dove landed before he would have returned by the 7th day on the 29th.  It is possible that the last day could encompass part of the 27th as things happen around the world, but the very end has to be the 28th, not the 29th.  One possibility is that, as the Bible states, no man knows the day or the hour, so that God has the absolute say in the matter whether it is actually sometime on the 27th.  


We should be in absolute awe of the infinite wisdom of Almighty God.  Mr. Camping was 100% accurate in all of the dates, but God’s plan was not quite finished. 


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May 21, 2011: Judgment Day!

 

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It is Finished: God’s Final Warning

 

Assembling the Timeline of History – Part I

 

Assembling the Timeline of History – Part II

 

Assembling the Timeline of History – Part III

 

Assembling the Timeline of History – Part IV

 

Judgment Day: Less than One-Half Year Away

 

A Word of Warning

 

Signs of the Times 

 

May 21, 2011: Judgment Day Scenario Unfolds

 

The Great Anticipation

 

The Great Disappointment II

 

October 21, 2011: End of the World!!!

  

October 21, 2011 – The First Day of the Feast of Tabernacles, Not the Last!

  

Genesis Chapter 8: Could December 28, 2011 Be the End?

  





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22 Responses to “The World Will End on December 28, 2011: The Proofs”

  1. Daniel Mensageiro says:

    Tom, please…think.

    Noah can not get into the ark for 40 days after docking on Mount Ararat without opening the window … is illogical …. can not be.

    The study of the link you sent is a little closer to the truth, but still is very wrong.

    For the love of Jesus Christ and all his family, calmly read this study:

    http://translate.google.com.br/translate?hl=pt-BR&sl=pt&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Ftemposdejulgamento.wordpress.com%2F2011%2F10%2F30%2Fesdras-10-da-esperanca-para-os-que-ainda-creem-a-mentira%2F (translate Google)

    https://temposdejulgamento.wordpress.com/2011/10/30/esdras-10-da-esperanca-para-os-que-ainda-creem-a-mentira/ (original in português/Brazil)

    It is very important that you ask someone to translate into better English the original in Portuguese. Ask someone to do it, please.

    Is explained only a part of the study. The rest is explained in the link below.

    http://translate.google.com.br/translate?hl=pt-BR&sl=pt&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Ftemposdejulgamento.wordpress.com%2Fcategory%2Ffim-dos-tempos%2F (translate Google)

    https://temposdejulgamento.wordpress.com/category/fim-dos-tempos/ (original in português/Brazil)

    For the sake of our brothers, do not prompt them to believe more lies.

    In love I write,

    Daniel Mensageiro

  2. Roger Hammack says:

    Daniel,

    Where did you read in this post that the remark, “Noah can not get ‘into’ the ark for 40 days after docking on Mount Ararat without opening the window …”.

    He was ‘in’ the ark the whole time! So I am confused with you argument and apprehension.

    In Christ’s love,
    Roger

  3. DeAnn Rogan says:

    PLEASE stop all this date setting. It incites fear in people that struggle with things such as autism and other difficulties. You would have no idea how our family personally has had to deal with all of this since May 21st and I am sure others have as well.

    We need to just draw closer and closer to Jesus each day and let Him live through us to love a hurting world.
    Date setting does not serve to draw people closer to the Lord, which is probably why when questioned Jesus told the disciples no man knows the day nor hour. Whether he returns tonight or next week or 10 years from now should not change the way you live for the Lord. We need to keep our eyes on Him, stay grounded in the Word and enjoy our relationship with Jesus and others. We are praying for you all. Even a member of my family with autism told me tonight after AGAIN reading one of your articles and getting scared and nearly having a melt-down that we need to pray for you all.

  4. Dave says:

    I hope you’re right. There are a lot of indicators things are getting ripe. But I think we’ve all had enough of the date calculations. I’ve listened to FR and been a financial contributor for over 25 yrs and really like the station. But Camping’s date setting has really done harm to the FR ministry. He should resign from FR, start his own website/ministry for his date setting ideas, and request air time from FR like everyone else–and make it clear that he is no longer associated with FM. this is the responsible thing to do.

  5. Dear Ann Rogan,

    You have an angel of the Lord at home … Take good care of him … and if he is afraid, learn from him, for he may be afraid because of you, not him.

    I believe that all autistic and aspergers are all angels of the Lord, brothers loved and very precious.

    Trust in the perception of him for what is happening these days. They see in the dark … they are lights … they are angels.

  6. Dear Dave,

    Brother Camping, like all who truly fear God, are not shy (Rev 21:8) and seek always to share the truth with his brothers.

    He’s right on many doctrines presented, but it is still a little crusty eyes. Still wanting to see with the eyes of the body that only the mind’s eye can see.

    It’s not being said in the Bible that the rapture will be physical.

    Is it not written that the world will be destroyed literally.

    Are not being told that the coming of our Lord will be seen through the eyes of the body.

    Is it not written that the trial will be “visual” or will be reading a book of literal life.

    All major events must happen spiritually, not visually. Even though it may still be the “disappearance” of some brother who will be caught, the more likely it is that brothers be removed once your thoughts with the world, no longer caring about anything in this life, just waiting for the world without injustice that is to happen with the coming of our Lord.

    Then it will be established the kingdom of God here on earth, ie, in a world where all minds will be the discernment of what is right, but only some will be able to know what is right, what is the Gospel.

    Those who do not persevere in truth and justice, will be judged by God’s Law, the “fire” spiritual consumer who will bring the suffering, confusion and shame in the thoughts of those on trial.

    Brother Camping, as well as any of us, it’s just a clay pot. We must keep our minds thinking about the “pot”, but the contents of the pot, or doctrines.

    Dave, So you should study the teachings of Brother Camping and seek those true that God really allowed us to learn, and we are very grateful also to Brother Camping, ok?

    A little here and a little there, we’ll all grow in knowledge of God and His will.

    A fraternal embrace and forgive me for the English, because it is a translation by Google (I do not speak English). Thank you.

  7. Roger Hammack says:

    IT IS NOT ABOUT CAMPING or Family Radio, or any of our personal feelings or thoughts. What is declared in the Bible is of the utmost importance! WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY VERSES WHO CARES WHAT PEOPLE THINK! ! ! GOD HAS DECLARED THE END FROM THE BEGINNING~ Who believes the BIBLE is GOD’s WORD? GOD is the One in Total Control! He is accomplishing ALL HIS GOOD PLEASURE! Only the wicked minds of unsaved mankind will ALWAYS disagree with GOD And HIS WORD!

    Isa 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:

    Joh 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

  8. Dear Roger,

    “John 6:44 No man Can come to me, except the Father Which hath sent me draw hin, hin and I will raise up at the last day.”

    But we must realize that one day on the spiritual plane where God is equivame a thousand years on earth.

    “2Peter 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day {is} with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.”

    So what prevents this day mentioned in John 6:44 is not a spiritual day that will last one thousand years on earth?

  9. Andrew says:

    I do believe an attack on Iran could come someone this year or next which could trigger a regional war and possibly a global conflict. Such a conflict I believe has potential to create the political vacuum and usher in the 7 year peace treaty & Antichrist. Beyond that, I can’t really say when specifically it might happen.

    I believe we are definitely living at the brink of the return of the Lord. So much so that I’ve launched a website related to 6 critical signs which I believe will culminate with Christ’s return in our lifetime which has been viewed in more than 100 countries. I would caution folks though on setting dates. Matt 24:36 does say “No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.” While we may have an idea about the seasons of things, staking a claim on a date such as when the rapture, return of Christ, or end times events will occur stakes a claim on your testimony, ministry, or credibility.

    It is good to be watching though and be encouraged as we see the date approaching. All good conversation.

    God Bless,
    Andrew

  10. Roger Hammack says:

    Daniel,
    If we are to keep to the context of preceding verses and the following verses then Verse 8 of 2 Peter 3 contexts is in the flood judgment as relating to the ‘last day’ fire judgment. This verse 8 in the whole chapter of 2 Peter 3 does not give permission to use it in relation to any where we decide to. The Chapter is about time and judgments. And God made sure to keep verse 8 in context with Chapter 3 by putting it right in the midst of this declaration of Judgment and Time (first with water then with fire.). To take this scripture out of this context is violating sound Biblical doctrine. The only placed this verse allows us to compare scripture with scripture is Genesis Chapter 7.

    Also Daniel, I had asked you a question about your comment above in the first message. > Where did you read in this post that the remark, “Noah can not get ‘into’ the ark for 40 days after docking on Mount Ararat without opening the window …”?

    He was ‘in’ the ark the whole time! So I am confused with your argument and apprehension about this?.

    In Christ’s love,
    Roger

  11. Roger Hammack says:

    Re 1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the Beginning and the Ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
    Re 1:11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the First and the Last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.
    Re 21:6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the Beginning and the End. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
    Re 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.

    If Christ Jesus says, “I AM the Beginning and the Ending, and we are to seek after Him, then if HIS WORD reveals ‘time and judgment’ should our studies of His Word include His Days?!

    Christ Jesus (THE WORD) has revealed the ‘Beginning’ and a great number of scriptures are pointing to the “Ending”. So we have free liberty to search the scriptures to ‘see’ His days. This is all to His Glory!

    “It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.” (Proverbs 25:2)

    Isa 42:9 Behold, the former things are come to pass, and new things do I declare: before they spring forth I tell you of them.

    Mark 13:23 But take ye heed: Behold, I have foretold you all things.

    Amos 3:7 Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.

    Pro 1:23 Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you.

    Ecclesiastes 8: 5 Whoso keepeth the commandment shall feel no evil thing: and a wise man’s heart discerneth both time and judgment.

    Mark 4:22 For there is NOTHING HIDDEN which will not be revealed, nor has anything been kept secret but that should not come to light.

    Job 24:1 ¶ Why, seeing times are not hidden from the Almighty, do they that know him not see his days?

  12. David Richards says:

    Dear Brethren

    As a result of the study Why Are We Still Here? by JR Carman and Dave Mielke, it has been deduced a very possible return of Christ on or around Nov.19/20, as Nov. 19 is the 7th day of the delayed Feast of Tabernacles and Nov. 20 is the eighth day of the FOT. May I humbly expose some noteworthy Biblical data concerning Nov.19/20 and the timeline of Biblical history.

    May 21 to Nov 19 = 182 days
    182 days = 2 X 7 X 13.
    182 days = 26 weeks = 1/2 year

    Gen 5:28 And Lamech lived an hundred eighty and two years, and begat a son: And he called his name Noah, saying, This same shall comfort us concerning our work and toil of our hands, because of the ground which the LORD hath cursed.

    Noah’s age at the flood is 600 years + His father Lamech’s age at Noah’s birth is 182 yrs = 782 years. Methuselah lived 782 years after giving birth to Lamech.

    Gen 5:26 And Methuselah lived after he begat Lamech seven hundred eighty and two years, and begat sons and daughters.

    Can we deduce that Methuselah lived until the flood of Noah or died the same year of the flood 4990BC?

    -6741 Birth of Methuselah / End Enoch period
    37 x 182 = 6734 years from -6741
    -7 Birth of Christ [Sun Oct 2] / Beginning of first jubilee

    Gen 5:23 And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years: And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.

    All of this information takes place contextually between the rapture of Enoch at 365 years old and the destruction of the flood of Noah’s day. Enoch lives 365 years and is raptured. 365 days = 1 year. Lamech was 182 years old when Noah was born. 182 days = 1/2 year.

    From May 21, 1988 to May 21, 2011 = 23 yrs exactly. Now add “1/2 year/182 days” to arrive at Nov 19, 2011 = 23.5 yrs exactly. I think it is noteworthy the earth has an approx. 23.5 deg tilt from axis. God of the Bible, the same God of creation.

    Other patterns using 182

    -4640 Death of Noah
    14 x 182 = 2548 years from -4640
    -2092 Abraham enters Canaan

    -2068 Abraham circumcised / Sodom destroyed
    1 x 182 = 182 years from -2068
    -1886 Joseph leaves prison, becomes prime minister of Egypt / Start 7 good yrs

    -3153 Birth of Peleg / End Eber period
    7 x 182 = 1274 years from -3153
    -1879 Start of 7-yr famine

    -1877 Israel enters Egypt 2 yrs into great famine
    5 x 182 = 910 years from -1877
    -967 Death of David; Solomon begins building temple

    -5088 Birth of Shem
    39 x 182 = 7098 years from -5088
    2011 Latter rain ends [Sat May 21] / Projected end of world [Fri Oct 21]

    -2675 Birth of Serug / End Reu period
    9 x 182 = 1638 years from -2675
    -1037 Birth of David

    -2297 Birth of Terah / End Nahor period
    13 x 182 = 2366 years from -2297
    70 Jerusalem destroyed by Rome

    God Bless
    †David Richards

  13. George Finn says:

    Hi Dave
    RE: YOUR QUESTION Can we deduce that Methuselah lived until the flood of Noah or died the same year of the flood 4990BC?

    Sorry: I am afraid not!

    Gen 5
    21And Enoch lived sixty and five years, and begat Methuselah:
    22And Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah three hundred years, and begat sons and daughters:
    23And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years:
    24And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.
    25And Methuselah lived an hundred eighty and seven years, and begat Lamech.
    26And Methuselah lived after he begat Lamech seven hundred eighty and two years, and begat sons and daughters:
    27And all the days of Methuselah were nine hundred sixty and nine years: and he died.
    28And Lamech lived an hundred eighty and two years, and begat a son:
    29And he called his name Noah, saying, This same shall comfort us concerning our work and toil of our hands, because of the ground which the LORD hath cursed.
    30And Lamech lived after he begat Noah five hundred ninety and five years, and begat sons and daughters:
    31And all the days of Lamech were seven hundred seventy and seven years: and he died
    Your conclusion would be incorrect because(as you can see from the above verses from Gen 5) God did not use the language “called his name” when Enoch named Methuselah. (As did Lamech when Noah was born in verse 29)

    According to the rules on how the timeline was developed, this means that Methuselah died in the year that Lamech was born.
    The language “And Methuselah lived an hundred eighty and seven years, and begat Lamech” is telling us that this is the year that Lamech’s intermediary paternal predecessor was born (Maybe his father or his grandfather). It is as if to say “And Methuselah lived an hundred eighty and seven years, and begat “a son who eventually begat” Lamech”.

    Just an FYI: We can tell from the above language that Lamech died 5 years before the flood.

    George Finn
    1 Thessalonians 1:2
    We give thanks to God always for you all, making mention of you in our prayers;

  14. George Finn says:

    You might also be interested in this observation:

    Gen 5:28 And Lamech lived an hundred eighty and two years, and begat a son: And he called his name Noah, saying, This same shall comfort us concerning our work and toil of our hands, because of the ground which the LORD hath cursed.
    Noah can be a figure of Christ both as judge and as savior. In this case the 182 pointing to the coming of Christ as our comforter could be extremely significant in relation to the rest of the language seen in Gen 5:28.

    George Finn
    1 Thessalonians 1:2
    We give thanks to God always for you all, making mention of you in our prayers;

  15. Al Phillips says:

    I got overwhelmed by the shear volume of your dissertation and while intellectually interesting, it struck me as being somewhat like the Medieval arguments about how many angles could dance on the head of a pin.

    Myself, I plan to leave it in the hands of the Father. Jesus said that the Father sets times by His own authority.

  16. Ted says:

    If you don’t like date setting cry to the pastor of your church God gives these dates whether you like it or not, the saved should have no fear of that day, because they have Christs faith.

  17. Roger Hammack says:

    Dear Al,

    There is no argument worthy of consideration if it is not concerning what is written in the Bible. Your example of arguing over “how many angles [sp](angels) could dance on the head of a pin” is an exercise in vanity! The posts above concerning the ‘timeline of the Bible’ is soley concerning the Bible! There is no possibility of finding truth apart from the Bible. So, our only hope is in the ‘mercies’ of God to give us His understanding.
    Luke 24:45; 2 Timothy 2:7

  18. BOBBY S says:

    claim that Camping is absolutly right is earthly claim,
    based on this earthly time only created by God for earthly people,
    not to fulfill HIS INIFNITE PLAN ABOUT THIS EARTH
    Also short passing earthly time will prove!
    that statement of this articel is absolutly wrong,
    and Camping is absolutly wrong-
    simple qualify this old guy to be FALSE PROPHET,and bad product of those worldwide churches under control past 2000 years-by man of lawlesness-abnomination and desolation standing on holy place past 2000 years
    mocking without of end GOD AND HIS WORD MAKE CAMPING FALSE PROPHET,he did,nt
    some things never understood by him and his team-
    BIBLE AND GODS INFINITE WORD,
    HIS PLAN BEYOND OF OUR TIME,
    EARTHLY TIME IS CREATED ONLY FOR US,HUMANS FOR ONE PURPOSE,
    TO LIVE,TO WORSHIP GOD, AND TO BE ACCEPTED ONLY BY HIS GRACE-
    NOT DAY DREAMS OR BY FALACIES AND FALSE PREACHINGS OF END DATES

  19. Darian says:

    The bible states that only God knows when the end is coming, end of story.

  20. Doug says:

    Long ago we had learned that God’s people could and would know the very Day of Judgment (see Can We Know?). So why is it that we now don’t seem to know the exact Day?

    Actually, we do know the Day! That Day was May 21, 2011 when spiritual judgment came upon the entire world. Just like Noah knew the exact day when the judgment by the flood would begin (Gen. 6:3; 7:4), so we also knew the exact day when spiritual judgment would begin: it was May 21, 2011! But when it came to knowing the exact day when the flood waters would subside and there would be dry ground to step upon – a picture of Heaven – Noah had to gradually learn with time when that would be. We read of this process of coming to know the time for dry ground, or Heaven, in Genesis chapter 8:

    1 And God remembered Noah, and every living thing, and all the cattle that was with him in the ark: and God made a wind to pass over the earth, and the waters asswaged;
    2 The fountains also of the deep and the windows of heaven were stopped, and the rain from heaven was restrained;
    3 And the waters returned from off the earth continually: and after the end of the hundred and fifty days the waters were abated.
    4 And the ark rested in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, upon the mountains of Ararat.
    5 And the waters decreased continually until the tenth month: in the tenth month, on the first day of the month, were the tops of the mountains seen.
    6 And it came to pass at the end of forty days, that Noah opened the window of the ark which he had made:
    7 And he sent forth a raven, which went forth to and fro, until the waters were dried up from off the earth.
    8 Also he sent forth a dove from him, to see if the waters were abated from off the face of the ground;
    9 But the dove found no rest for the sole of her foot, and she returned unto him into the ark, for the waters were on the face of the whole earth: then he put forth his hand, and took her, and pulled her in unto him into the ark.
    10 And he stayed yet other seven days; and again he sent forth the dove out of the ark;
    11 And the dove came in to him in the evening; and, lo, in her mouth was an olive leaf pluckt off: so Noah knew that the waters were abated from off the earth.
    12 And he stayed yet other seven days; and sent forth the dove; which returned not again unto him any more.
    13 And it came to pass in the six hundredth and first year, in the first month, the first day of the month, the waters were dried up from off the earth: and Noah removed the covering of the ark, and looked, and, behold, the face of the ground was dry.
    14 And in the second month, on the seven and twentieth day of the month, was the earth dried.
    15 And God spake unto Noah, saying,
    16 Go forth of the ark, thou, and thy wife, and thy sons, and thy sons’ wives with thee.
    17 Bring forth with thee every living thing that is with thee, of all flesh, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth; that they may breed abundantly in the earth, and be fruitful, and multiply upon the earth.
    18 And Noah went forth, and his sons, and his wife, and his sons’ wives with him:

    The point I am trying to make is simply this: even as Noah gradually understood more clearly over a span of 370 days when He would finally be able to depart from the Ark and step onto dry ground, so we also are in the process of gradually learning when Heaven – the dry ground – will come. Noah sent out a dove 3 times in search for dry ground, which signifies it was God’s very purpose (see number 3) for him to search as to when there would be dry ground just as it is God’s purpose that we seek for the dry ground of Heaven; he also eventually removed the covering of the Ark to finally see dry ground for himself. Nevertheless, although he continued to search as to when there would be dry ground, and even though he was able to eventually see what at least appeared to be dry ground (verse 13), he actually never did discover in advance the exact day on which he would leave the Ark to step onto the dry ground. It was only on the very last day after the Lord commanded him to leave the Ark that he finally knew it was his very last day in the Ark.

    Now, as it was in the days of Noah, we knew and still know the very Day of Judgment: it was May 21, 2011. But the exact day when we will leave the Ark to step onto the dry ground of Heaven, we do not yet know. Just as Noah had to go through a period of time and a process of seeking and learning before he was able to even come close to knowing the exact day of his departure onto dry ground, so we also are currently in the process of seeking and learning more fully when the dry ground of Heaven will appear. In fact, as we carefully consider the flood account in the above passage, Noah never did know the exact day, but he knew of it to be the last and exact day only after the Lord actually commanded him to leave the Ark. Although he saw that the dry ground was dry without any obstruction to his view on the 1st day of the 1st month when the cover of the Ark was removed (verse 13) – a clear representation of Noah knowing he was about to step onto dry ground – it was still 56 days more until the earth was in reality completely dried on the 27th day of the 2nd month after which he was then commanded by the Lord to leave the Ark.

    My point is that just like Noah, we can know when we are about to step into Heaven. The flood of spiritual judgment began on the day we knew and know of: May 21, 2011. We are now being protected in the Ark of Jesus Christ as we wait and watch for the signs of dry ground, which is heaven. As time goes on, we will be seeing more and more clearly as to when the dry ground of Heaven will come until we come right to the point of knowing we are about to be raptured, but even then, we may never know the exact day in advance. It is apparent in the flood account that Noah never knew the exact day in advance, but it was only after the Lord commanded Noah to leave the Ark and step onto dry ground that Noah came to know the very day. So don’t be surprised if we never come to know the exact day of Heaven until the very day of heaven. It appears that we can come very, very, very close to knowing the exact day in advance as did Noah, and it is only natural to seek for such information as did Noah, but we may not know the very day until we hear the actual command of our Lord as is found in Revelation 11:12,

    “. . . Come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them” (Rev. 11:12).

    Only when we hear this command will we know for sure that it is the last day, and so time for us to step onto the dry ground in heaven. As it was for Noah, we may never know the exact day in advance, but that doesn’t mean we won’t come very close to knowing when that day will be. Noah did, and at the very least, so will we.

  21. john francis says:

    Amen, brother Doug. Thanks. To God be the Glory

  22. Jack S. Fogbound says:

    I predict,the world as we know it will probably end if Barack Obama wins in 2012


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